Interrogation
protocol of Johann Gall:
"On
the way to Scheparovce a water ditch, approximately 4 m wide, had to be
crossed.
Even we had
problems jumping over it. It happened that some of the people destined for
liquidation were not able to pass this stream. They fell into the water, and
were shot by the
Ukrainians
accompanying the group. In the forest, the majority of the people who were
led there
were accommodated in a barrack from where they were brought from time to time
in groups
of 50-100 persons approximately 20-30 steps towards the pit, where they had to
lay down on their stomach. From there 2-3 persons at a time were ordered by a
Ukrainian to the
pit, and
were ordered to enter it. On the command “go down!” they had to again lie
down on
their stomach, and were shot in the back of the head. The pit in which
the corpses
lay was approximately 160 cm deep. When I was in Scheparowce, the execution
was carried
out by the Gestapo man Göde, a Volksdeutscher, a light blond, strong, 165 cm
tall man,
the Judenreferent (official in charge for Jewish affairs) Frost, and another
Gestapo man. Lt.
Wittmann, Hertl, Kleinbauer, Kneisel and Pernek also stood at the pit.
I myself
stood at the pit for a short time, and observed how the people were shot, but
when I was fed up with this, I went away and spent some time in the guardhouse
of the Ukrainians.
I think I
remember that I saw that Pernek and Kneissl take part in the shootings. At that
time
I carried a
pistol but I did not shoot people.
Our platoon
arrived at Scheparowce at approximately 11 a.m., and left it at approximately
6 :30 -7
p.m. During this time approximately 500-700 people were liquidated."